This first installment of our four part series, A Tale of Two Budgets, will compare a profile of The Dalles, Oregon and Meadville, Pennsylvania. Let’s begin by sizing them up.
SIZE COMPARISON: THE DALLES VERSUS MEADVILLE –
The Dalles, Oregon is about 1.8 times the geographic size of Meadville, Pennsylvania in terms of its official incorporated jurisdiction. The Dalles is larger in size despite having had achieved a much lower historical population by the year 1920. We provide two possible explanations for the difference in geographic size between these communities. The first concerns the difference between Oregon and Pennsylvania in local-level municipal incorporation practices. The second may be accounted for in the different municipal annexation policies of their states.
In Oregon, cities exist as the only type of local-level municipal government. They are often surrounded by either other cities or large expanses of unincorporated areas. Unincorporated areas have no municipal representation and don’t usually receive the urban services commonly provided by city governments. For residents in these unincorporated areas, the county commission is their closest form of local government. Because county governments don’t typically involve themselves in providing urban services, residents in the unincorporated portions of county’s but living near cities might desire annexation in order to benefit from public services.
Conversely, in Pennsylvania, every square foot of the commonwealth is incorporated at the local level under either a city, borough, township, or town. Not only are each of these four types of municipalities responsible for providing public services, they are looked to by their citizens to provide local representation with a great degree of autonomy. Therefore, within the Pennsylvania system, a city’s annexation of lands beyond its current limits means engaging in an effort to take control over the lands lying in another local municipality’s jurisdiction. The result may be that Pennsylvania’s system of local incorporation may be less conducive to annexations proposed by cities, towns, and boroughs.
In Oregon, proposals for the annexation of territory into an adjacent city can be brought forward either by the city’s legislative body or by a petition to such body by the owners of real property in the area to be annexed. Not only does Oregon allow these two processes for annexation, State law also allows properties subject to annexation proposals to be taxed at a lower rate than properties that already exist within the city. Essentially, under Oregon’s system, properties that have been recently annexed can be gradually eased into the city’s higher tax rates over a period of 10 fiscal years, if initiated by property owners, or up to 20 fiscal years, if compelled by the city’s legislative body.
Within the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, municipal annexation is a different story. This is in part because every square inch of the state is incorporated at the local level. Annexing territory into your city will mean taking a bite out of someone else’s municipality. Thus, the procedures set in Pennsylvania’s law, account for the autonomy and representation granted to the involved municipalities. A proposal for annexation into a city within the Commonwealth must be instigated by a petition of the property owners within the subject area. In the event that the petition is successful, then the matter of the annexation proposal is considered by the city council. If approved by the council, then the court must hear and then provide the proposal before either the voters subject to annexation, in the case of boroughs, towns, and cities, or before all voters in the municipality, in the case that a portion of a township is the subject of an annexation petition. If the voters approve the proposal, then the annexation can commence. Although this system lends more to procedure and the voice of citizens, it provides less opportunity for cities to engage in logical annexations. Note – there is debate about whether or not the aforementioned process, based off the Commonwealth’s 1903 law, actually stands as the law in Pennsylvania regarding annexation.
THE HINTERLANDS & REGIONAL MARKETPLACE –
Comparing the hinterlands and market regions of The Dalles versus Meadville will provide insight into the economic potential and capability of each community. We’ll begin with a description of what surrounds The Dalles.
Located at a distinctive bend in the Columbia River lies The Dalles. This point defines what many Oregonians consider as the beginning of the eastern portion of the Columbia River Gorge https://www.columbiarivergorge.info/. One of the more dramatic rain shadows in the United States can be observed as the Columbia River breaks through the towering peaks of the Cascade Mountains. The twenty-five river miles lying immediately west of The Dalles mark a climatic change that ranges from some of the rainiest temperate rainforest in the world to a high mountain desert incapable of supporting trees. As a population and commerce center, The Dalles is challenged only by Hood River located twenty miles to the west. Beyond Hood River, the eastern outskirts of the Portland Metropolitan Region, with its 2.5 million inhabitants, begin about 60 miles west of The Dalles. East of The Dalles, over a hundred miles of high mountain desert rein with only the occasional interruption of a desolate village before reaching Hermiston – the next significant population center. To the south, a similarly sparse terrain of high mountain desert lies within the rain shadow cast by the Cascade Mountains for nearly ninety miles before reaching Madras. Heading north, an unpopulated, albeit climatically diverse expanse of wilderness spans for more than eighty miles through the Yakama Indian Reservation https://www.yakama.com/ before reaching the town of Toppenish. Regardless of the direction one departs from The Dalles, the population is sparse for at least 60 miles with pockets of uninhabited wilderness.
The Dalles region contains a population of around 22,515 people living within a ten mile radius of the city’s main street commercial district. Based on our analysis, about 16,010 people or just over 71% of the population within this area resides within the official limits of the City of The Dalles.
And now Meadville…
Nestled just north of the Mahoning and Steel Valleys’ in the western portion of the Appalachian Highlands lies Meadville. Despite siting smack in the heart of northwestern Pennsylvania, Meadville is not the economic center of its region. That title belongs to Erie, Pennsylvania located about 35 miles to the north. However, despite its satellite existence, Meadville is not without its own distinctive character and influence. For the most part, Meadville is surrounded by a combination of the Pennsylvania or Ohio countryside. Despite the rural and agricultural characteristics of its overall region, Meadville’s hinterlands are densely settled. To the north, one encounters a small borough or village every few miles before reaching the suburbs and then city of Erie. Beyond this lies Lake Erie itself – marking the edge of the United States. Heading south, a once robust expand of Pennsylvania family farms only occasionally shines with the active clusters of Amish farmers before giving way to the sprawling outskirts and rolling hills of Pittsburgh. The eastern hinterland is the most sparsely populated. A heavily forested landscape is broken only occasionally by small towns and villages lying about twenty miles apart before humanity fades into the thick brush and hillsides of the Pennsylvania Wilds https://pawilds.com/. Heading west the landscape flattens and farms predominate over forest stands. Small villages and boroughs spring up every few miles to create a rural tapestry that almost seems lost in time. Several highways traverse between Pennsylvania and Ohio to accommodate through traffic that must respect an abundant stream of Amish buggies. This landscape continues until it finally gives way to a series of rolling hills and suburbs before one finds the heart of Cleveland. There are millions of people occupying Meadville’s hinterlands. Most cities, boroughs, and villages are only separated by a short distance. Meadville itself lies in the middle of a triangle that once built America formed by Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Buffalo.
The Meadville region contains a population of around 44,504 people living within a ten mile radius of the city’s main street commercial district. This is nearly double the population of those living within a comparable area in The Dalles region. Based on our analysis, about 13,050 people or just over 29% of the population within this area resides within the official limits of the City of Meadville.
CLIMATE: THE DALLES VERSUS MEADVILLE –
Although one could consider a city’s climate to be an informal factor that is not related to its physical makeup, many may disagree. Therefore, because of the power of climate to influence consumer behavior, we’ll provide a few metrics to compare The Dalles’s versus Meadville in terms of weather. Let’s begin with a look at annual precipitation totals.
In alignment with its semi-arid environment, The Dalles receives about 13.7 inches of rainfall per year with most of this falling between the months of November and April. Additionally, The Dalles receives an average of 4.8 inches of snowfall per year. When adding the water equivalent of snowfall to the rainfall total for The Dalles, The Dalles receives about 14.2 inches of precipitation per year (1 inch of rainfall amounts to about 10 inches of snowfall).
Over in Meadville, Pennsylvania the story is a little different. Meadville receives an impressive 44.3 inches of rainfall on average during a year. This alone provides for a much wetter climate than The Dalles. However, in addition to receiving more rainfall, Meadville routinely experiences winter months that exhibit substantial freezing along with cold weather events. Such events produce an average of 74.6 inches of snow over the course of a calendar year. In fact, the first trace of snowfall in Meadville often lands before Halloween and the last can easily reach into the first two weeks of May. When adding the water equivalent of snowfall to the rainfall total for Meadville, Meadville receives about 51.8 inches of precipitation per year (see above conversion).
Okay, well what about the temperature?
On average, The Dalles, Oregon is warmer than Meadville, Pennsylvania. The average high temperature for The Dalles sits at 64.5 degrees Fahrenheit versus around 57.7 degrees on the same scale for Meadville. A similar difference exists between annual average low temperatures where The Dalles sits at 43.6 degrees Fahrenheit compared to Meadville at 37.5 degrees on the same scale.
THE DALLES VERSUS MEADVILLE: A HISTORICAL COMPARISON: POST WWII HISTORY –
The Dalles thrived in the years following World War II with the continued development of the American West. Specifically, the U.S. Army Corp of Engineers would build The Dalles Dam over the Columbia River to generate hydroelectric power. Northwest Aluminum along with others began its investment in The Dalles area with a series of aluminum product facilities. Though employing many workers for several decades, the local aluminum industry fell off during the 1980s and 1990s hindering economic growth. Presently, The Dalles has diversified its economy to include a focus on data technology, renewable energy, fine agricultural products, and recreation. For more information on The Dalles history, visit – http://historicthedalles.org/
Similar to The Dalles, Meadville began as a significant transportation hub. During World War II, the city’s manufacturing prowess made it an excellent site for the nearby Keystone Ordinance Works. As the birthplace of the mass production of zippers, several thousand workers were employed at industries such as the Talon Corporation, Avtex Fibers, and Channellock among others. Despite experiencing a decline in manufacturing employment throughout the 1980s and 1990s, Meadville’s concentration of local manufacturing outlets and skilled tool and die manufacturers makes its economy unique. Its presence of tool makers has earned Meadville the nickname of “Tool City USA.” More recently, the city has begun to embrace recreational activities and special events as opportunities to strengthen the local economy. For more information on Meadville history, visit – http://www.crawfordhistorical.org/chs/
DEMOGRAPHIC ANALYSIS OF THE DALLES VERSUS MEADVILLE–
Demographic similarities between The Dalles and Meadville, albeit comparable, might provide some of the more telling information that distinguishes these communities. Let’s start with a brief look at each community’s 1920s urban population.
Taking a moment to understand the historical urban populations of these communities (circa 1920) is important because this population mark largely predates the automobile era. In other words, the 1920s population figure for each community can be thought of as a metric of its historic urban population. By such a standard, Meadville clearly beats The Dalles. In 1920, Meadville had a population of nearly 14,600 (14,568) whereas The Dalles only had around 5,800 residents (5,807). Essentially, Meadville had an urbanized population nearly three times the size of that of The Dalles. Because the fate of our cities will likely rely upon their ability to host an urban population, Meadville has a considerable advantage in this area. We’ll discuss the legacy advantage of Meadville’s urban population in our economic comparison below.
Since 1950, Meadville has lost population as The Dalles has gained. In fact, since 1950 The Dalles has seen its population more than double from a reported 7,676 residents to an estimated 16,010 residents in 2020. Conversely, Meadville’s population has fallen from a 1950 peak of 18,972 to an estimated 13,050 by the 2020 Census. For Meadville, its population has dropped around one-third (31%) over the last seventy years. Unfortunately for Meadville, its population has seen a steady decline even over the past few decades. On the other hand, The Dalles saw its population stagnate from 1960 until around 1990, after which time, its population has grown at an increasingly fast rate. Today, The Dalles’s population, at around 16,010 residents, stands above that of Meadville which sits at an estimated 13,050 people – it surpassed Meadville as of the 2010 U.S. Census.
How do their population’s break down by age bracket?
A comparison of the population by age bracket reveals that The Dalles’s population is more consistent or stable across all age brackets. That is to say that The Dalles has a heathy population of young residents paired with only a slight decline in those who are college or post-high school aged. Its workforce age brackets remain consistent and its population of senior citizens is only somewhat greater than that of the working age brackets. Additionally, many senior citizens live within The Dalles.
Meadville’s population appears to be less consistent or stable than The Dalles across the age brackets we compiled from U.S. Census Bureau data. Specifically, Meadville appears to have smaller portions of children, working-age persons between the ages 30-to-49, and elderly individuals over age 75. However, when compared to The Dalles, Meadville has considerably more individuals between the ages of 15-to-24. This finding likely reflects the presence of Meadville’s four-year college; an institution that The Dalles lacks. The most significant concern for Meadville arising from our analysis of its age pyramid is that it appears to struggle to retain children, families, and elderly seniors within its limits.
A PROFILE OF SOCIAL & HOUSING CHARACTERISTICS IN THE DALLES VERSUS MEADVILLE–
A quick investigation comparing the racial diversity of The Dalles versus Meadville reveals that, although both communities are predominantly white, Meadville is somewhat more diverse. In Meadville, the Black and African American population (which also includes many individuals of mixed race) is large enough to sustain a few distinct community institutions. The Dalles, like Meadville, does have a notable presence of mixed race individuals with those of other races making up traces of the total population.
Our next analysis of data supplied by the U.S. Census Bureau compares the total percentage of householders that moved into their home (unit) during a specified period as a percentage of all householders in their community. Horizontal bars were used to represent percentages for Meadville (yellow) and The Dalles (dark green) with transecting vertical bars used show the corresponding national figure for the United States. From this analysis, it appears that residents within The Dalles tend to stay within their unit longer. This observation seems consistent with the difference in the homeownership rates between the communities that will be explored shortly (The Dalles has a much higher homeownership rate). Meadville exhibits a much higher percentage of its homeowners having moved into their current housing unit over the period between 2015 and 2018. Once again, this observation might hint at another estimate suggesting that Meadville’s amount of renter households as a percentage of all households is much higher than that of The Dalles. Finally, although The Dalles has seen about twice the percentage of householders move into their current unit after 2019 as Meadville, both communities rest well below the national figure (around 27%). This final observation may indicate that there is less shuffling of households in these communities over the past three years than observed nationally. Another possibility might be that both Meadville and The Dalles were not desirable locations to settle during the COVID-19 pandemic.
The infographic titled, “Comparison of Housing Value & Economic Indicators,” provides a basic snapshot of the how the welfare of residents differs between Meadville, The Dalles, and the nation as a whole. Essentially, Meadville’s median household income lags well behind that of The Dalles and both communities fall far short of the national figure. This observation is critical when one considers that each additional dollar beyond the income needed to cover a households basic needs can be used to support savings or engage in discretionary spending at a leisure-focused local business. Based on income alone, a group comprised of 10,000 The Dalles residents produces an economy one-and-a-third times the size of what the same sized group of Meadville residents would produce. Consistent with this observation, the family poverty rate in The Dalles is about half of Meadville’s rate. When considering how median household income factors into a household’s ability to afford housing, we see that despite The Dalles carrying a median contract rent that is about $100 higher than Meadville’s, the percentage of renters in The Dalles who are burdened by the cost of housing still remains slightly lower.
The Dalles and Meadville have nearly inverted housing tenure rates. In The Dalles, the owner occupancy rate is roughly similar to the U.S. rate at around 60% of householders owning their homes. In Meadville, the owner occupancy rate, at around 37%, is more comparable to the U.S. rate for renter occupancy. Although local officials and government administrators are becoming more receptive to the interest and needs of renters, as renting is less often viewed strictly as an intermediate stage of housing consumption, Meadville’s low home ownership rate may present a social obstacle for the community. Renters still remain typically less invested or attached to their community, are often given less clout or consideration by dominant ownership or investment interests, and may be less likely to participate in or contribute to community institutions.
The seemingly tighter supply of available housing in The Dalles may be a factor that contributes to its higher median value. Just over 94% of The Dalles’s housing stock was occupied at the time of the 2020 Census compared to a tick above 85% for Meadville. The difference in vacancy rates between Meadville versus The Dalles is particularly pronounced in the homeowner component. In Meadville, more than eight percent of homeowner homes were vacant during the 2020 Census compared to essentially none for The Dalles. In The Dalles, the renter vacancy rate is concerningly low while Meadville’s is a little high.
IT’S ALL ABOUT THE ECONOMY, RIGHT? –
Ironically, our look into the economic circumstances of The Dalles versus Meadville begins with more housing related data. The vertical bar graph shown displays the percentage of housing units within each community that were built within the given time periods. For example, approximately five percent of all housing units within The Dalles were built during the 2000s decade. In this particular chart, the horizontal black lines display the corresponding percentages for the nation as a whole.
Both The Dalles and Meadville can be considered comparatively historic communities in the national context with a much higher percentage of their homes being built before 1939 or during the 1940s – especially Meadville. Meadville was settled in 1788 some 59 years after George Washington rowed up French Creek at the onset of the French and Indian War, and The Dalles was officially founded in 1857 about 52 years after Lewis and Clark spent four nights there during their expedition. The Dalles experienced a housing boom during the 1950s with Meadville producing housing at a similar proportion to the national percentage during that decade. A similar, albeit reversed, observation could be for the following decade (1960s) with Meadville producing a greater percentage of its homes during that period. Since the 1970s, both The Dalles and Meadville have lagged behind the national percentage for housing units built during each decade.
In Meadville, housing production appears to have essentially stopped since the Great Recession of 2008. Although a historic housing stock can create a unique urban environment it also carries many challenges – especially for a population facing economic struggles.
Let’s see some jobs!
Our graphic titled, “Composition of Jobs by Industry,” is somewhat complicated in that it shows two different types of data with jobs data compared between two different sources. Dashed horizontal lines are used to display U.S. Census Bureau job estimates by industry for The Dalles, dark green, and Meadville, yellow. Hollow vertical bars are similarly used to display jobs data for The Dalles, dark green, and Meadville, yellow, from the Longitudinal Employer-Household Dynamics (LEHD) partnership within the U.S. Census Bureau’s Center for Economic Studies which combines data from state unemployment insurance filings and Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages reports. Finally, solid colored vertical bars are used to display the reported number of jobs held by residents of each community within the industry segments shown. Here, The Dalles is shown in a less saturated dark green and Meadville at a lower saturation of yellow. This last data set was also supplied by the LEHD. When reviewing this graphic, it is important to note that the jobs data from the Census Bureau is an estimate whereas the jobs data from the LEHD comes from a model that combines unemployment filings and employment and wage census data.
Both sources of jobs data suggest that Meadville’s employment base is at least comparable to that of The Dalles and possibly stronger overall. Meadville dominates over The Dalles in terms of employment in the manufacturing and education, health care, and social assistance sectors. Conversely, The Dalles appears to lead over Meadville across a wider breath of industries including agriculture and resource extraction, construction, retail trade, transportation, warehousing, and utilities, cultural, recreation, hospitality, and food services, and public administration. Essentially, large educational institutions and manufacturing operations power Meadville’s economy whereas The Dalles’s economy appears to be balanced across a wider variety of sectors with an emphasis leaning toward tourism and recreation.
However, despite signs of Meadville having a stronger job base, residents within The Dalles hold more jobs in all sectors except for manufacturing. In some sectors, such as agriculture and resource extraction, construction, retail trade, transportation, warehousing, and utilities, finance, insurance, and real estate, professional, scientific, and management services, cultural, recreational, hospitality, and food services, and other services residents in The Dalles hold considerably more jobs than those residing in Meadville. The Dalles is only about 25 percent larger in terms of population than Meadville, however, across many sectors, its residents’ appear to hold a proportionally higher number of jobs even when adjusting for the population difference.
Where are the Jobs?
We prepared two maps to display where jobs are located in The Dalles and Meadville. Then we prepared two more maps to show where those working in The Dalles and Meadville live within their respective communities. Let’s begin by taking a look at the former. However, there are two things to know about each map before we begin. The larger the circle, the greater the number of jobs reported as filing their payroll receipts in that area, and as circles approach a red color, they transition from yellow to red, they represent higher paid jobs.
The map titled, “Job Distribution & Concentration of High Paying Jobs” for Meadville leads us quickly to the conclusion that Meadville benefits from one of the great legacies that Pennsylvania has often created for its many cities and boroughs – a strong, dense central core. Being one of the Nation’s original gubernations, Pennsylvania developed largely before not only the automobile, but in most cases, prior to the use of electrified streetcars. Therefore, in Meadville, we see the dominance of the “downtown” area as a place for employment. Large institutions such as Crawford County, the City of Meadville, the headquarters of manufactures, and regional outlets for commonwealth agencies anchor the central business district. In close proximity to the central business district also lies Allegheny College, Meadville Medical Center, Channellock, and C&J Industries. This wealth of businesses and institutions forms the bulk of Meadville’s economy. At least in terms of employment, Meadville could easily be classified as a “strong downtown” city.
The corresponding map for The Dalles tells a somewhat different story. The “downtown” or main street area can be seen at the bend in the city’s U-shaped layout immediately adjacent to the Columbia River. Although some of the job clusters are indeed comprised of relatively high paying jobs, none are particularly prominent over other clusters in the community. The main street district of The Dalles is comprised largely of small-scale retail establishments, small offices, and a few mid-sized institutions such as The Dalles City Hall, The Dalles Police Department, regional state offices, Wasco County’s Courthouse, and a few special services districts such as the Mid-Columbia Fire and Rescue and the Wasco County Parks and Recreation District. It is likely the case that some of the higher paid (dark orange and red) job clusters represent bankers, attorneys, insurance companies, real estate offices, and government workers. The largest circle on the map appears to represent the jobs clustered in the are around Mid-Columbia Medical Center (east of the main street area at the southern end of the city). Immediately west of the main street district lies a less dense landscape represented with large clusters of relatively low paying jobs. This area is primarily comprised of big box retail stores, automobile-oriented strip malls, and chain food establishments. The dark orange and red circles lying between the Columbia River Highway and the river itself west of the main street area (left side) largely represent the industrial developments in and around the Port of The Dalles. Overall, the distribution of jobs in The Dalles is less centralized around a downtown business district. Additionally, the presence of small job clusters in residential neighborhoods appear throughout the city.
Where are the workers?
Similar maps to those produced to display the relative locations of jobs in Meadville and The Dalles were also made to display the approximate areas where each city’s workforce lives. Once again, a great legacy of Pennsylvania’s old communities is revealed by the areas where Meadville’s workers live. When compared to The Dalles, Meadville benefits from a relatively residential central business district and main street area. The main street area of The Dalles contains a few isolated clusters of residential activity but otherwise represents a void. Meadville, on the other hand, appears to display some level of residential activity on every block within its central business area. This findings may represent a positive circumstance for Meadville that it could build upon as a method to continue improving its downtown.
The concentration of workers living throughout the neighborhoods of these two cities differs in that The Dalles shows a more consistent pattern of residential activity than Meadville. The strength of the residential density pattern in The Dalles is particularly strong throughout the city’s older neighborhoods that possess a more traditional urban design (center part of city). The Dalles’s newer neighborhoods, lying both to the east and west, are represented often with larger circles that point to the dominance of the lower density more suburban development pattern found in these areas. Unfortunately, in Meadville, many of its older neighborhoods have lost residents to the point where the data suggests a lower density or more suburban development pattern rather than the dense urban formation that actually comprises them. The neighborhoods immediately north and northeast of Meadville’s central business district appear to be the city’s most intact residential areas. If revitalization efforts are to occur, building upon the present strength of those neighborhoods might be an ideal place to start. Finally, the north end of Meadville displays residential concentrations consistent with its suburban development pattern.
Circles displayed in hues of orange and red represent clusters of residents with a higher average monthly income than those shown in yellow. Within The Dalles, the higher income residents live mixed throughout the older neighborhoods, along the bluffs overlooking the city, and throughout the eastern end of town which also sits at a higher elevation. In Meadville, upper income residents are clustered around Allegheny College in the northern end of the community.
How the Regional Labor Force is Distributed
Two additional maps were created to demonstrate the location of jobs and clusters of where workers live throughout The Dalles region, Wasco County, and the Meadville region, Crawford County. On these maps, the yellow circles represent the locations of where each region’s workers live and the red circles approximate the locations of jobs. Comparing these two maps illustrates the stark differences in land use policies between the two regions. The City of Meadville is surrounded by many job clusters and residential areas that lie outside its limits. Conversely, most of the jobs and workers within The Dalles region are located either inside The Dalles itself or within the few small towns located in the vicinity.
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There are many implications that may stem from the differences in land use policy that exist between the two regions. Within The Dalles, residential and business activities are concentrated inside or near the city’s limits. This even appears to include agricultural workers but not most agricultural job activities. Such circumstances might be more conducive to concentrating and retaining real-estate investment within the City of The Dalles – a factor that translates over to a healthy property tax base. Conversely, the loose land use practices that prevail throughout the Meadville region might support more opportunities to economic development – a factor that could translate over to more growth potential for established suppliers based in the City of Meadville.
COMPARING LOCAL SYSTEMS: THE DALLES VERSUS MEADVILLE –
The infographic below provides an overview of the most basic differences between the legislative and administrative structures of the City of The Dalles and the City of Meadville. Additionally, an estimated range for the total number of employees contained within each organization is provided based off several online sources listed below the infographic.
Estimated Total Employees Sources:
- Meadville 131 employees (https://www.buzzfile.com/business/City-of-Meadville-814-724-6000)
- Meadville 125 employees (https://www.zippia.com/city-of-meadville-careers-150523/)
- Meadville 78 employees (https://govsalaries.com/salaries/PA/city-of-meadville)
- The Dalles – 127 employees (https://govsalaries.com/salaries/OR/city-of-the-dalles)
- The Dalles – 83 employees (https://www.buzzfile.com/business/The-Dalles-City-of-541-296-5481)